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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #947
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-
- Info-Hams Digest Mon, 22 Aug 94 Volume 94 : Issue 947
-
- Today's Topics:
- Communications Quarterly , was Qs on no code FCC license and Hardware
- CQ/Ham Radio Magazine history
- FT530 Programming Guide
- Going to Austria.
- IC-970H use for AMSATS
- learning CW
- Questions: Digital Scanning, Cellphones, Transmissions
- Radio Interface to Internet?
- Rigs in Dish Washers
- SSTV
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- We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text
- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 12:31:06 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp!news.dtc.hp.com!hplextra!hplb!hpwin055.uksr!hpqmoea!dstock@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Communications Quarterly , was Qs on no code FCC license and Hardware
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- C. C. (Clay) Wynn, N4AOX (wyn@ornl.gov) wrote:
-
-
- : Well, they are doing it here. The rf shops are full of those contester rigs in
- : for the sparkplug changeouts. One of the biggest problems was finding a cheap
- : second source for those @#$%& overpriced HP diodes ;-)
-
- : 73,
- : C. C. (Clay) Wynn, N4AOX
-
-
- Right! I can appreciate why someone might not feel confident or well
- enough equipped to try to fault find in a current "contester rig", but
- this is a simple soldering job, no fault finding or set-up needed.
- Perhaps those shops filled with radios for diode swaps are evidence of
- the progressive de-skilling of amateur radio? Or could it just be a
- case of people now being more prepared to throw money at problems ?
-
- It seems to me that folk used to be a lot more prepared to "Have a
- go". I'll be pleased if we've left poverty behind, but I do hope that we
- haven't left curiosity or skill behind.
-
- There's a free market in RF semiconductors, and several sources of
- PINs around the world. Seeking alternative parts is a long established
- amateur tradition. There is some effort involved in finding a potential
- part and in trying it out, but this can often give the seeker knowledge
- and experience worth more than the savings on parts. Long period PIN
- diodes are not really mainstream components, so price and availability
- won't be wonderful, no matter who made them. There may be some parts
- available from surplus dealers that could still be better than the
- standard parts built into the radios.
-
-
- That reply cheered me a little, maybe I'm pessimistic about the scale
- of reading of technical atricles ?
-
- Cheers,
- David GM4ZNX
-
- (Just personal thoughts and opinions)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Aug 94 08:43:06 -0500
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!spool.mu.edu!news.nd.edu!leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu!00tlzivney@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: CQ/Ham Radio Magazine history
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Gary is not quite accurate about CQ buying Ham Radio magazine to
- temporarily boost their circulation by adding the HR subscribers -
- I had a lifetime subscription to Ham Radio and received NO additional
- issues of CQ - the publisher told me I should have purchased the
- lifetime subscription to CQ (this at the Atlanta hamfest a few years
- back).
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 13:07:16 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!torn!news.ccs.queensu.ca!venus!jupiter!pas@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: FT530 Programming Guide
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Folks: I've made a few updates to this document and am
- posting it again. I hope some find it useful (I do!).
-
- Peter
-
- O Peter A. Stokes ____________ Voice & Voice mail: (613) 545-2923
- <^- Engineering Applications Support __________ FAX: (613) 548-8104
- \/\ Canadian Microelectronics Corporation ______ Net: stokes@cmc.ca
- \ Kingston, Ontario, CANADA ______________ Radio: VE3ZXT @ VE3CDY
- "Don't believe any advice you read"
-
-
-
- How VE3ZXT programs his Yaesu FT530 HT
-
- (These instructions are intended to help remind me on how I
- program my FT530 and are not a substitute for reading the
- manual!)
-
-
- HINTS:
-
- 0. To turn the radio on, push and hold (for 1/2 a
- second) the orange button on the left side.
- Repeat this to turn it off.
-
- 1. If you get into a strange mode or display, hit PTT
- as this usually clears it. The radio may display
- "ERR" for a moment.
-
- 2. To switch from band to band (left to right and back),
- use the "BAND" button.
-
- 3. If you want the backlight to stay on while using the
- radio, enter FM -> LAMP. The LAMP button is just
- below the PTT button. Having the light on can make
- programming quite a bit easier.
-
- 4. The radio is capable of any combination of scanning,
- searching or being idle on both bands. For example,
- one can be scanning on the left side and carrying on a
- QSO on the right side. To make the radio scan, place
- the radio on any channel (push MR until the channel
- indicator does not have multiple small arrows) and
- then push and hold either arrow button. It is also
- possible to make the radio alternate scan (scan on the
- left, then right, then left, ...). The radio is also
- capable of receiving any mixture of VHF and UHF on
- either side. If the PLL is unable to lock, the
- frequency display will flash.
-
- 5. Push the Monitor (Burst) button (above PTT) to break
- squelch momentarily. Push and hold the same when the
- radio is off to see the seconds display on the clock.
-
- 6. Whenever you make a change to the programming of a
- channel (frequency, offset frequency, offset
- direction, CTCSS frequency, Tone squelch enable, Tone
- encode enable, mode AM or FM), it is necessary to save
- that channel again to save the changes. As in normal
- programming, push and hold FM for two seconds, then
- hit FM again. That will store the current settings in
- the current channel.
-
-
-
- PROGRAMMING GUIDE:
-
-
- 0. Ensure the radio has suitable power and the lithium
- battery installed.
-
- 1. Reset the radio by holding the MR and VFO buttons
- as you power up the radio. This will clear all
- settings, time, channels, etc.
-
-
- 2. Enable the extended receive and transmit modifications
- by holding both arrow keys while powering up the radio
- again. Note: extended Rx and Tx also require a
- hardware modification not discussed here. This mod
- reportedly allows for reception of 110-180, 300-500,
- 800-950 MHz and transmission of 140-150, 430-450 MHz
- although I haven't tried these to confirm the
- extents.
-
-
- 3. Set the clock: FM -> REV to see the clock
- FM to go into set mode
- (then see page 51 of the manual)
-
- Hint: set the radio in UTC to avoid time zone and
- time change hassles.
-
-
- 4. Enable ARS (Automatic Repeater Shift) on both bands.
- This will automatically set the repeater offset to the
- correct frequency count and direction +/- when you
- program in a frequency. The radio understands the
- basic amateur bandplan and will not set an offset if
- you enter a simplex frequency (e.g 146.520).
-
- FM -> 0 -> 6 -> FM -> 6
-
- and again for the other band
-
- FM -> 0 -> 6 -> FM -> 6
-
-
- 5. Set the alternate display (when only working one band)
- to display battery voltage (a nice feature IMHO!):
-
- FM -> 0 -> FM -> BAND
-
- and again
-
- FM -> 0 -> FM -> BAND
-
- Alternative display options include blank (---) and clock.
-
-
- 6. Set transmitter default power to high:
-
- FM -> 3
-
-
- 7. Set scan resume mode on both bands to "P" for pause
- (as opposed to "5" which causes the radio to continue
- scanning after pausing five seconds on one signal):
-
- FM -> 7 -> FM -> 7
-
- and again for the other band
-
- FM -> 7 -> FM -> 7
-
-
- 8. Set automatic power off if desired:
-
- FM -> 0 -> 3 -> 3
-
- This feature can be useful if you want to conserve
- battery power or a pain if you are using the radio as
- a scanner or for monitoring packet. Regardless of
- configuration, the radio will shut itself off when
- battery voltage reaches near 5.5 volts, eliminating the
- possibility of over-discharging the nicads. As the
- radio nears this shutdown condition, the display will
- alternate between normal functions and a battery
- voltage display.
-
- When automatic power off is enabled and the radio is
- about to shut itself off, it will play a warning medley
- one minute before shutdown. The default medley is a
- cute musical passage I detest. Fortunately, one can
- change this warning song. Refer to page 53 of the
- manual on how to enable a custom tone sequence and page
- 46 on how to program it in (it is the tone sequence in
- autodial memory number 1).
-
-
- 9. Set ABS to the desired ratio. ABS is the Automatic
- Battery Saver and causes the radio to go into a low-
- power consumption sleep mode if it is not used for a
- few seconds. In this mode, the radio remains
- inactive (conserving power) except for periodic 30
- millisecond samples of the frequency being
- monitored. ABS may cause you to miss the first
- split second of a transmission and can cause problems
- for the same reason when the radio is being used for
- packet. Otherwise, it is a good tool. If I had the
- money, my car would have ABS too (but that is a
- different kind :-) To set ABS, enter:
-
- FM -> 4
-
- and then one of the following keys
-
- 1 for 10ms sleep, 30ms sample duty cycle
- 2 for 20ms sleep, 30ms sample duty cycle
- 3 for 40ms sleep, 30ms sample duty cycle
- 4 for 80ms sleep, 30ms sample duty cycle
- 5 for 160ms sleep, 30ms sample duty cycle
- 6 for 320ms sleep, 30ms sample duty cycle
- 7 for 640ms sleep, 30ms sample duty cycle
- 8 for 1.28s sleep, 30ms sample duty cycle
- 9 for automatic ratio based on recent usage
- 0 for ABS off
-
-
- 10. If desired, enable Tx Save feature. This feature
- will adjust transmitted power based on the signal
- strength of the incoming reception. As a rule,
- amateurs should always be using the minimum power
- necessary to maintain their QSO. This is a lazy
- approach. To enable Tx Save:
-
-
- FM -> 0 -> 4
-
- and repeat for the other band
-
- FM -> 0 -> 4
-
-
- 11. Program in your favorite frequencies in all the
- channels. There are 41 per band: 38 channels plus
- one CALL channel plus one U (upper channel) plus one L
- (lower channel). If you have enabled the extended
- receive and transmit, you will find that a wide range
- of UHF and VHF frequencies can be intermixed on each
- side. It is also possible to enter 0.8 GHz
- frequencies in the UHF side! If the frequency
- display is flashing, the PLL has unlocked and the
- radio is unable to tune that frequency.
-
- The basic sequence to enter a frequency in a
- channel is:
-
- VFO enter into either VFO on the
- band desired
-
- 146940 to enter 146.940 MHz
-
- FM (hold for two seconds)
-
- (use arrow keys or dial to select
- channel to store frequency in)
-
- FM
-
- The frequency is now stored. After a
- second or two, the radio mode returns
- to the VFO. Repeat this process as
- necessary to enter all frequencies.
-
- Refer to the manual on the programming of the CALL, L
- and U channels. These are used for a quick recall of
- the CALL frequency, Lower limit and Upper limit when
- searching, respectively. Note that if a CTCSS tone
- is stored in a U or L channel, that tone will be used
- for decoding during search mode if searching is
- initiated from that channel.
-
- To set a CTCSS decode frequency on a given channel:
-
- set radio on that channel
-
- FM -> 2
-
- turn dial to desired PL tone
-
- 2
-
- It is then necessary to enable tone decode on that
- frequency. To do this, repeat FM -> 1 until TSQ
- appears in the display (which indicates Tone Squelch
- is enabled).
-
- Refer to the manual on setting a decode frequency or
- scanning for a decode frequency.
-
- Don't forget to save any channel options into memory
- before moving on to some other programming function.
- In other words, if you enable tone decode on a given
- channel, you must save that channel again to the memory
- location in order to save the tone decode setting.
- Otherwise, the minute you move off that channel, the
- tone decode setting is forgotten.
-
-
- To set a CALL channel frequency:
-
- VFO enter into either VFO on the
- band desired
-
- set frequency, offset and CTCSS tone
-
- FM (hold for two seconds)
-
- CALL
-
-
- The radio is capable of receiving in AM mode and has
- extended receive capability down into the aircraft
- band. Although not discussed in the manual, the
- radio can store the mode (AM or FM) in each channel.
- To store a frequency in AM mode:
-
- VFO enter into either VFO on the
- band desired
-
- set frequency
-
- FM -> 0 -> FM -> VFO (enables AM mode)
-
- FM (hold for two seconds)
-
- use arrows or dial to select channel
-
- FM
-
- Note: the VFO will remain in AM mode until you enter the
- sequence again (FM -> 0 -> FM -> VFO) or the radio is
- made to listen to an FM channel. Remember to return
- the VFO to FM mode after setting an AM station otherwise
- you may end up programming all remaining channels in AM
- mode (annoying!).
-
- Important: If you enter any frequency other than an
- amateur radio frequency, make sure you manually set the
- offset to - or + so that if you are listening to the
- frequency and accidentally PTT, you will not transmit
- on that frequency (e.g. a police frequency!).
-
-
- 12. Set IBS (Intelligent Band Select) if desired. This
- makes the radio automatically switch to the side, when
- you PTT, that last had a transmission. To set:
-
- FM -> 0 -> BAND
-
- Note: both bands must be displayed to set IBS.
-
-
- 13. Set DTMF keypad transmit hang time to on:
-
- FM -> 0 -> FM -> 1
-
- This makes it possible to enter a DTMF number sequence
- (e.g. a phone number during an autopatch operation)
- without having to hold PTT beyond entering the first
- digit.
-
-
- Please send suggestions/corrections to me,
-
- 73, Peter
-
- O Peter A. Stokes ____________ Voice & Voice mail: (613) 545-2923
- <^- Engineering Applications Support __________ FAX: (613) 548-8104
- \/\ Canadian Microelectronics Corporation ______ Net: stokes@cmc.ca
- \ Kingston, Ontario, CANADA ______________ Radio: VE3ZXT @ VE3CDY
- "Don't believe any advice you read"
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Aug 1994 09:28:08 -0500
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news.tamu.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Going to Austria.
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I'm going in September for ten days - what do I need to do in order
- to take/use my 2m ht.
-
- Garen, N5RUK
- gke0837@tamsun.tamu.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Aug 94 15:24:00 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: IC-970H use for AMSATS
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Is anyone using the IC-970 for 9600 baud AMSAT work, and if so, what
- modifications are required?
-
- I contacted ICOM customer service and got the following reply:
-
- >Sir,
- >
- >The IC-970 was developed before 9600 baud packet was on the market.
- >Therefore the radio was not designed with the capability of operation with
- >9600 baud packet. The IC-970 will work on the AMSAT but not on PACSAT, due
- >to the switching speed needed to operate 9600 baud packet.
- >
- >We do not have factory authorized modifications for the radio outside of the
- >original design of the Radio.
- >
- >73's Ray, KB5KCL
- >
-
- It seems hard for me to believe that radio manufacturers are ignoring 9600
- baud compatability as much as they are ... the reviews I have read on the new
- IC-820 also say that it is also not 9600 baud SAT compatible.
-
- I guess I need to start considering other units for my next purchase ...
-
- any recommendations from other users ???
-
- Thanks
-
- Art Jeyes
- Art.Jeyes@jhuapl.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Aug 94 14:49:43 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: learning CW
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Derek,
- Interesting that you brought this up. I happened to be wondering
- the same thing...so I took an informal poll at a VEC testing
- session this past weekend. Of the folks I talked to, everyone
- that used only computer generated CW said that they had trouble
- for the first couple of QSOs after passing their 5 or 13 wpm
- code tests. One guy claimed that he could copy 25 wpm solid with
- computer generated code, but, on the air could only copy about
- 15wpm or so. So at least from the small population that I talked
- to it seems that your observation is correct.
- cheers - Warren
- --
- Warren E. Lewis saswel@unx.sas.com
- Technical Support Division (919) 677-8001 x6542
- SAS Institute Inc. PP-ASEL
- Cary, NC KD4YRN DOD#0021
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 13:50:38 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!torn!news.ccs.queensu.ca!venus!pas@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Questions: Digital Scanning, Cellphones, Transmissions
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1994Aug20.140335.9766@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) writes:
- |> In article <333n3t$jqf@nic-nac.CSU.net> g9153402@huey.csun.edu (Berton Corson) writes:
- |> >But if, and when, digital services become the standard, will that make
- |> >our scanners next to worthless, with nothing left to scan?
- |>
- |> It's illegal to scan cellular *now*, you're supposed to use your scanner
- |> to scan transmissions that are legal to intercept such as unscrambled
- |> public safety and amateur.
- |> Gary
-
- Gary: you dodged the question! Park the political
- correctness and stay technical! Your insight is good; I
- have several printouts at home that are your posts
- (lightning protection and SWR arguments). There is
- nothing wrong with _talking_ about scanning cellular phone
- calls. And plus, it is entirely legal.
-
- In Canada.
-
- To answer the reader's question: scanners are able to
- receive an incredibly large number of transmissions:
- marine, aircraft, public safety, search and rescue, fire,
- taxi, security, Mick Jagger's wireless microphone, amatuer
- radio, satelites, ambulance, public weather stations,
- military operations, air shows, cordless phones, drug
- busters and the list goes on. As services go digital over
- the next couple of decades, today's scanners will slowly
- become less versatile. Don't hold your breath though...
- these things take a lot of time.
-
- Peter
-
- o Peter A. Stokes ____________ Voice & Voice mail: (613) 545-2923
- <^- Engineering Applications Support __________ FAX: (613) 548-8104
- \/\ Canadian Microelectronics Corporation ______ Net: stokes@cmc.ca
- \ Kingston, Ontario, CANADA ______________ Radio: VE3ZXT @ VE3CDY
- "Don't believe any advice you read"
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 12:52:30 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Radio Interface to Internet?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <sethrCux0F9.1B2@netcom.com> sethr@netcom.com (Seth Russell) writes:
- >Ok this might be a really dumb question - but I am going to ask it anyway.
- >
- >If one needed to download truly large files from the Internet (say in the
- >range of 100 files of 50 megs each every day) - then the first thing that
- >jumps to mind is - direct connect and bring in a T1 trunk from the *phone
- >company* and lease it for about $900 per month - right?
- >
- >Is this actually the most economical way to do it? Couldn't an enterprising
- >network provider who is already hooked up to the net just interface with a
- >radio transmitter that could put data on the air waves and allow anyone with a
- >receiver/modem to pick it up for the cost of the equipment and the cost
- >to the network provider? Hey I told you it was a dumb question before
- >you started reading!
-
- It's technically feasible. The questions that have to be answered
- though are who pays, how much, and on whose spectrum? Businesses
- aren't going to provide this service for just the cost of the
- equipment, they want to make a profit on this value added service.
-
- Liveline produces a weather product for TV broadcasters. They
- distribute the product this way. You call them on landline with
- a list of desired weather product (maps), and they queue that
- up on their broadcast server and send it digitally encoded via
- geosync satellite transponder. The product you order is coded
- to activate your decoding box, and is downloaded into your
- forecast computers. They charge for the map data, and that
- has the cost of transmission rolled into it. Somebody has to
- pay the geosync satellite operator for transponder time, somebody
- has to amortize, maintain, and operate the uplink station, and all
- those somebodies want to make a living at it.
-
- Broadcasters are looking into the broadcast server business.
- With the coming digital HDTV broadcasts, there is going to
- be excess capacity in the data stream. There are several
- proposals for selling this excess capacity for broadcast data
- services. And of course there are already stock quote services
- (and paging) broadcast (encrypted) on subcarriers of FM broadcast
- stations. The user pays a fee that covers the data, and the
- transmission.
-
- No one is going to do it for just cost of equipment any more
- than the telcos are going to give you a T1 just for cost of
- equipment. The telco's copper is already a sunk cost. It costs
- them no more to give you dialtone than it does to carry a live
- call, but they still charge you per minute. That's because they
- want to turn a buck off you. It's the same for broadcast servers,
- they want to turn a buck off you. They don't have the copper
- cost of the telcos, but they have other costs, such as the
- typical $12,000 a month electric bill for their transmitter.
-
- Then there's the question of available spectrum. There's only
- a limited amount of spectrum space, and there are lots of
- different demands for it's use. For a broadcast service to
- be economical, it has to reach enough customers with product
- they want in order to spread the costs enough to be competitive
- with switched point to point telco service.
-
- For regular broadcasters, the magic number is 2.5 cents per viewer
- per minute, or about $1080 per viewer per month. That's higher than
- a leased T1 monthly charge (but of course it includes product cost
- as well as transmission cost). With the much lower number of people
- consuming a data product being broadcast, the price point is likely
- considerably higher for a dedicated broadcast data server. If that
- cost can be made *incremental* to the existing broadcast, it is
- likely to be small enough to be competitive with switched services.
-
- Gary
- --
- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
- Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
- 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
- Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Aug 1994 13:20:57 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Rigs in Dish Washers
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Many many years ago before anyone could afford a dishwasher (or maybe
- before they were invented) we used to take the old nasty cab radios we
- were trying to modify to the car wash and CAREFULLY spray them out with
- the high pressure hot water hose. We would only use the soap spray on
- the pieces of the cases that did not contain components.
-
- ---------------------
- Dan Vestal
- vestal.dan@gtefsd.com
- ---------------------
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 07:45:24
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!emory!metro.atlanta.com!mhv.net!news.sprintlink.net!indirect.com!s146.phxslip.indirect.com!lenwink@@.
- Subject: SSTV
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- The subject of slow scan tv will be the topic of discussion on this week's
- Ham Radio & More show. It features John Langner, WB2OSZ, of
- Absolute Value Systems as the show's guest. So be sure to tune into this
- week's show, 8/28/94.
- Ham Radio & More is heard on the Talk America Network in over 20 cities
- and via satellite on spacenet 3, transponder 9, 6.8 audio. The listener
- call in line is 1-800-298-talk, and for more info call 602-241-1510.
- 73, Len, KB7LPW
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Aug 94 14:50:10 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: subscribe
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Dear OM,
-
- could I get more info on the services you provide for hams? What topics are
- covered, is there a conference going on, interesting files etc...
-
- Thanks,
-
- Peter - ON6TT.
-
- p_casier@ub4b.eunet.be
-
- ------------------------------
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- Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 07:39:35
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!emory!metro.atlanta.com!mhv.net!news.sprintlink.net!indirect.com!s146.phxslip.indirect.com!lenwink@network.ucsd.edu
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- Subject : Re: Why Some people hate Wayne Green
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- >I have been a 73 reader since the mid Sixties and have found Wayne Green
- >W2NSD/2 interesting, entertaining and controversial. He's Ham Radio's
- >original "Bad Boy". Every organized effort humans involve themselves in
- >should have a "devil's advocate" or whatever you wish to call it.
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- >Two political parties are better than one. The ARRL is necessary as a
- >lobby group to keep the Bureaucrats in DC from taking our bands away from
- >us ( especially the VHF-UHF bands which are jealously coveted by the two-way
- >radio industry. Don't forget the 220MHz band that UPS spent mucho bucks
- >to get from us and doesn't even use!) In my opinion, Wayne is and has
- >been the guy that keeps the League on its toes.
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- >I've heard Wayne Green speak on several occasions at hamfests and he
- >always draws a huge crowd. Many people criticize him for all kinds of
- >reasons. I don't always agree with his views, but he certainly makes the
- >political side of our hobby colorful and interesting.
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- And Wayne Green will be the guest on the Ham Radio & More show on
- October 30, 1994. Make plans to hear this POSITIVE show.
- 73, Len, KB7LPW
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